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 Post subject: Re: Attention Drive Shaft Car Racers
PostPosted: Thu Dec 18, 2008 2:34 pm
  

Racers,
The BOD has met and a decision has been made, to require, all direct shaft driven vehicles, to have a cover installed.


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 Post subject: Re: Attention Drive Shaft Car Racers
PostPosted: Thu Dec 18, 2008 10:29 pm
  

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....but......but.......but.....

or

IMDRA can't force me to be safe.......I'm contacting my legal counsel, the famous barrister, the Honorable Dan Chase...........

and

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 Post subject: Re: Attention Drive Shaft Car Racers
PostPosted: Thu Dec 18, 2008 10:39 pm
  


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Location: Mesa, AZ
Is there anything in the rules that defines a "direct shaft driven vehicle"?

What percentage of the driveshaft circumference must be covered?

Will there be a specified dimension that governs the location of the cover relative to the O.D. of the shaft or its fittings?

As for safety, I'd like to see IMDRA try to regulate my piss-poor driving abilities..... :ltng:

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 Post subject: Re: Attention Drive Shaft Car Racers
PostPosted: Fri Dec 19, 2008 4:49 am
  


Joined: Fri Oct 24, 2008 8:52 pm
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Location: sunnysouth
Wow,this really the only way for me to respond to this misguidence of power!!!
Pat,Jimmie and some others have some vaild points and all the KING(Flyod Vick) can say is "thats the rules".

You know,I step out of the game for a little while and when I sign in this morning, I get to read this B___ S___!!!!
What is a new comer to think? Even the veterans are up in arms.

This was not thought threw very well.Their are some big loop holes.Really big!!!!

So lets say for a moment this rule is a good idea.How can you lay out a rule without thinking about all the what if's?

Some points:Clearly Jimmie and Pat dont need this lexan.
So you say to put it on top of the shaft,but why not the underside...It can easy shoot out the bottom.
The guys with door slamers dont need it.They have 12 to 16 inchs of lexan to protect them.
But as stated by the KING "all DD must have this"?????????????????????

Please, if you can explain in detail, why these examples I have spoken about need to have this protector?
Also try your very best not to delete my post and just try to answer nicely without insult.

I would like to take this moment to agree with Eric Johnson.I think their are some more important matters you should be dealing with other than this,as he metioned.

One last thing,I want the BOD to remember when you guys raced(if you ever did)I dont belive you would have liked rules shoved down your throat.

In endding,I do agree that the LONG shaft DD's need something,but you guys went around it the wrong way!!!

Thank you for your time
Respectfuly
Joe Gonzalez

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 Post subject: Re: Attention Drive Shaft Car Racers
PostPosted: Fri Dec 19, 2008 2:15 pm
  

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Lightzpro wrote:
As for safety, I'd like to see IMDRA try to regulate my piss-poor driving abilities..... :ltng:


Truly the cause of many unsafe situations. I don't mean Pat per se, :lol: but cars that wreck a lot seem to spew parts all over the place more...

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 Post subject: Re: Attention Drive Shaft Car Racers
PostPosted: Fri Dec 19, 2008 3:34 pm
  

SunnyHouTX wrote:
Lightzpro wrote:
As for safety, I'd like to see IMDRA try to regulate my piss-poor driving abilities..... :ltng:


Truly the cause of many unsafe situations. I don't mean Pat per se, :lol: but cars that wreck a lot seem to spew parts all over the place more...


this really isn't the thread for it, but quoting the above gets my toe in the door. dare i recommend "Competition Licensing" ? a license procedure based on knowledge of the sport and tested driving ability.

as far as the Lexan cover goes, BOD must feel there is a need. but i don't think there were enough variety of dd cars reviewed in the process to see what is in the field as far as shaft construction goes. there is a way to prevent this occuring again in the future. my recommendation is that all competitors be required to submit three (3) images of each of their racecars to IMDRA tech. (1) overhead chassis image; (2) profile chassis image; (3) 3/4 front image with body mounted. this will assist IMDRA BOD by providing them a snapshot of what is actually racing in competition within their organization.

a 180degree top cover as provided in the thread opening image is sufficient in my opinion. 0.030" Lexan is determined to contain the energy of a spit-shaft if it goes up. using that as logic, then if a shaft spits out the bottom between the frame rails, surely all its energy will be expended on contact with the track and not become a rebound hazard. same goes for a pan-type chassis on a rail. doorslammers and floppers-if, as pat suggests, it can happen in the pits, then, yeah, they need covers too. free-spinning in the pits is never real smart in the first place. so maybe IMDRA BOD is in essence protecting us from ourselves? something to think about.

recommend the Lexan shield remain clear and un-painted. that will allow both tech (huh? wha'd he say?) and the crew chief the opportunity of a quick visual check. also, recommend the shield serve no other purpose, e.g., wing mount, body mount, etc.

my 2centavos. hey Joe, welcome back.


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 Post subject: Re: Attention Drive Shaft Car Racers
PostPosted: Fri Dec 19, 2008 6:48 pm
  


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God only gave most people two eyes.The last time I checked the doctors can transplant eyes but it can be expensive.The only material available for high speed rotation is titanium, but not just any titanium the turbine approved stuff dont know the actual number of the material but it does not matter. IT appears most of you tight wads wont even buy a piece of lexan so titanium is out of question.I know people think this is a bad idea and wont do it,lets just hope when they are testing there cars nothing flies off and kills them or a friend :stkz: , remember the brain is right behind the eye socket.


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 Post subject: Re: Attention Drive Shaft Car Racers
PostPosted: Fri Dec 19, 2008 9:18 pm
  


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Location: Mesa, AZ
jeff schmidt wrote:
....remember the brain is right behind the eye socket.
....another excellent reason to require fully contained driveshafts on vehicles that are allowed to warm up and run in the pits.

I've got a sheet of 0.012 titanium around here somewhere..... anyone think that it might be suitable for a scattershield? Or are we going to be required to use 0.030 polycarbonate? Is the material going to be dimensionally checked? Is anyone going to verify that the plastic used is actually polycarbonate? If so, how is this going to be accomplished? Maybe I'd better use a length of schedule 80 steel pipe, just to be on the "safe" side..... the extra weight will probably help my cars anyway.... =)));

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 Post subject: Re: Attention Drive Shaft Car Racers
PostPosted: Fri Dec 19, 2008 10:16 pm
  

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 Post subject: Re: Attention Drive Shaft Car Racers
PostPosted: Fri Dec 19, 2008 10:59 pm
  

maybe IMDRA tech could affix a 'blue sticker' to the shield once it is approved for competition use... :jugl:

buddy, buddy, buddy this single issue is gettin beat to death. i can't wait for release of the entire 2009 rule book. katie bar the door - it's gonna be big... :stkbt:

:lol: :lol: :lol:


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